Theft despite anti-burglary doors? Unfortunately, it's possible

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August 18, 2015 (article 6 years ago) (225 opinions) by Piotr Weltrowski

The latest article on the topicTheft despite anti-burglary doors: more cases, this time in Gdańsk Do anti-burglary doors protect against theft? Halfway, because - as experts say - each can be opened. The best in 6 minutes.photo. Trojmiasto.pl

Do thieves from the Tri-City have a lockpick to open the main lock in the very popular Dierre anti-burglary doors produced before 2012? Mr Artur from Gdynia claims that he was robbed in this way on Monday. Police are also investigating a second similar case in the same area.

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yes, a new model29%yes, but quite old28%no, but I plan to buy one4%no, such a door is only a false sense of security, thieves will open everything as they please39%Cast voteTotal votes: 1227Mr Artur came home from work on Monday and found the door to his apartment open. It turned out that in his absence, thieves appeared inside. They acted professionally, probably wearing gloves. The policemen who arrived on the spot initially did not want to believe that the lock had been opened by thieves. They suggested that it had not been closed at all. Later, it turned out that in the same area, but several days earlier, there had been an almost identical burglary. The same type of door was forced. We are asking the police about both cases.However, we have established that in the case of an earlier theft, which took place in late July, the police records already contain the entry: "unknown manner of breaking the door". We tried to talk about this with companies selling Dierre doors in the Tri-City, but each time we were sent back to the manufacturer. It even comes with an instruction manual on a DVD. We also check information about previous similar thefts that took place in Warsaw and which were mentioned by Mr. Artur. It turns out that at the end of last year, also within one district, four apartments were broken into, which were protected by Dierre security doors. All of them were forced with a lockpick. After media reports on this subject, the manufacturer of doors, which are often installed by developers, also in the Tri-City, commented. In the statement, he pointed out that the problem affected not only the locks of this door manufacturer, but all doors with double-bit locks. He also pointed out that Dierre introduced from 2013 - after the first signals about a lockpick opening the anti-burglary door - additional security: a system Lock Trap, which locks the lock when an attempt is made to open it with a device other than a key. But what about doors and locks manufactured before 2012? They can be replaced with a newer model, but it costs money. The statement issued by Dierre and sent to Gazeta Wyborcza, which also describes the cases of burglaries in Warsaw, mentions PLN 720 for the replacement of only one main lock.

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2015-08-19 06:34

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And you see the gimbuses. The tiles have specific anti-slip parameters. And by fulfilling them, you have no right to slip. If you buy a security door only to have someone force the lock for 6 minutes instead of 5. Plus you say that's why you bought them and that you know they're going to rob you anyway - you're just a loser. Saying it's normal is even more of a sucker;) Didn't Korwin have it on the leaflets?

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2015-08-19 11:18

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There are a lot of Internet specialists... the worst are those who write what they THINK without checking in google, if someone checked google - as often as I do - it's half the trouble. .. an ordinary lock, with a PRL key "you force it with a lockpick" - because it is an electric drill + a piece of metal plate - about 20 seconds with good practice :), while a decent anti-burglary door made of hardened steel, not some shitty sheet metal with a decent lock (I don't know as in ordinary locks, but e.g. in padlocks you have hardened balls at the ends of the bolts - how do you want to drill a rotating ball? :D -or a rotating hardened 'plate' and it fully protects against getting into the padlock even with a network drill :D ) ~ 10x faster you will go through the wall than through this door ;) and when you try to go through the door you will make so much noise and it will take so much time that in practice you will not break in, because the neighbors will call the militia, or you will simply give up .... only such external doors, e.g. from a well-known company on A, cost from PLN 5,000 upwards;) when you buy an anti-burglary door for PLN 600, it is as if you bought a Skoda-limousine and expected BMW parameters;) regarding your question: So the seller says "anti-burglary" they are misleading? Yes. because in fact it IS POSSIBLE to walk through this door .... just like the sellers of 99% supplements, nutrients, Knut enlargement pills, miracle diets, 100% of all kinds of tele-mangoes (or something like that), ~ 80% salespeople (I'm guessing here, sorry) in specialized shops... - e.g. in a computer shop they will always give you some shit if you don't know each other :) - I don't think I need to list further... I just don't understand your surprise that the sellers are misleading ;)

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2015-08-25 09:08

and that's where you're wrong

old PRL's is 2 seconds ... bumping method, so with 20 seconds you exaggerated it and 10 times, unless the sucker uses a lockpick, it's boring.

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2015-08-18 18:04

once a long time ago in the 80's there was an article from the so-called ''former workers'' of many factories had counterfeit keys!(1)

It is real that someone who works in production or assembly has contact with the production of various locks etc. he can also have something ''earned''. They described that in the 80s, when the plants were falling apart, former employees had access to practically everything and could sell some blueprints to someone. Companies that install anti-burglary locks with a certificate probably give a guarantee that in the event of theft they cover losses since there is a certificate that guarantees that such locks cannot be broken into! I guess

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2015-08-19 11:31

On Grunwaldzka Street, near Manhattan, there is a company dealing with emergency door opening

they opened my certified door with 2 good locks in a few minutes and didn't break any of the locks. For me it was a shock how much my protections are worth, I asked them if there are any better protections and they told me that there are and it takes about 10 minutes for the better ones. more time to break them.

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2015-08-19 12:47

The question for the opening experts is - what insert?(1)

The question for the opening experts is - what insert for the lock? Which company, etc. is the best to open it as difficult as possible. Of course, matching Dierre.

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2015-08-18 16:04

My door is electrified!(15)

1000 volts!

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2015-08-18 18:01

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Are you asking how much vat was for this door or how much vat does he pay for electricity?

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2015-08-18 18:00

iks(1)

Son! Live..........

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2015-08-18 18:07

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If they break you in and kill them, you go to jail.

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2015-08-18 22:08

WOLT??

what is volts (it's 5 meters not 5 meters, same with volts, 5 volts, 5 amps etc)

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2015-08-19 08:05

they can be energized up to 1000,000,000,000,000V and I can touch them PHYSICS stupid(1)

as long as the amperage was meager. The current is given in Amperes. Applying 1000A to your door will cause it to catch fire and you would have to live near the NN lines.

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2015-08-19 21:30

2.5 KV dielectric insulating gloves cost about PLN 70

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2015-08-18 16:05

These "experts" in security(10)

Just read the dark side of the Internet, i.e. the TOR forums. I'm not talking only about the Polish ones, but mainly those from across the Eastern border. There they could find enthusiasm and inspiration for even more strenuous work. Because what criminals use, it would seem, ordinary things, may surprise not one expert. For my own safety, I stopped using some sales portals or services, let's say for humanity, because that's where I could read that something is used for crimes. it does not give law enforcement agencies anything, because there are supposedly only advice and not completed deeds.

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2015-08-19 07:25

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and how to enter this mythical TOR, everywhere smart people boast about it, nowhere is there any information on how to get to it, I should type in google search???

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2015-08-19 13:18

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Download Tor Browser, which is a special Firefox that you can use to connect to TOR (all in the package - proxy, etc.). Find the Hidden Wiki address on google, or use DuckDuckgo .

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2015-08-20 15:55

Before you enter,

think twice if you want to find things that no normal person thinks about on a daily basis. Tips on how to make a scam for a left loan are one of the lajt cases that can be found in the deep web.

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2015-08-20 16:02

Cool(1)

that you know what a hidden web is. I know too. And I think that if 90% of internet users don't know what TOR is, it better stay that way. We have enough spoiled youth who would love to experiment with advice from Victoria or other crime forums.

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2015-08-18 16:07

There's no way around a thief(4)

But he mustn't make it easy, I'll buy anti-burglary doors anyway

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2015-08-18 16:51

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a way to additionally secure these doors: remove the usual insert from the bottom lock - insert, for example, a Kaba and cover it with an anti-burglary rosette - Dierre offers such a rosette, if they open the central lock, it's still they will be...

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2015-08-18 19:53

There is a Scandinavian method.

For decades, hands were cut off there and before the Polish invasion, houses and cars could be left open there.

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2015-08-18 16:10

That's for sure.(3)

Aren't the thieves from the door manufacturing company, its former employees fired?

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2015-08-18 17:14

Perhaps they were not, and the current employees control this procedure, because the current sales are poor,

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2015-08-18 16:11

Lock(6)

The service brought a new insert for this lock because I lost the key with documents. It turned out that the old key fits the new insert, such a good repeatability of the key has this company. Of course, we are talking about Dierre .

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2015-08-19 08:34

How old does the key fit when you lost it???(3)

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2015-08-19 15:32

key

There are often more keys than one...

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2015-08-19 20:12

Exactly the same thing happened to me with this company in Wypoczynkowa. Scandal.

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2015-08-18 16:12

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Being a thief is evil! After today's article, how a brave resident of PiecekMigowa caught a vandal, I have a feeling that an ormowiec can catch me and hand me over to the police, the fact that 14 years ago I stole 2 straws from kfc in a flash. Saturday tempted me to steal a candy bar in the net ... I'm afraid to go there ... :-D

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2015-08-19 11:02

not a psychiatrist, but the holidays aren't over yet...

September 1

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2015-08-18 16:12

in which district?(1)

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2015-08-18 16:16

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Maybe Mr. Artur left the key under the doormat? One thing is certain - the refusal of compensation is like in a bank, since it was "an unknown way to force the door". He can sue Dierre, I wish you good luck - Commercial Court in Warsaw

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2015-08-18 19:30

insurance

But he was definitely insured against the fall of the meteorite and the airship. We have such insurance

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2015-08-18 16:17

dierre(5)

after all, there was a lot of talk about this door ... you need to install an additional gadget ... apparently there were even videos on how to open the door by Dierre

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2015-08-24 22:11

well, not really, and this disinformation

because after all, LOB FANA YALE YETI etc. etc. inserts open on the same principle - either by breaking them or rather with a lockpick, it is enough to set 4 pawls.

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2015-08-19 05:41

Best protection(1)

It's best to leave a hungry neutered dog at home. HUNGRY THAT HE WOULD BE ALERT and aggressive and neutered so that some female dogs wouldn't pick him up. I recommend

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